expanding on rape

So I'm sitting at work now pondering adding the character trait of "aggravated rapist" to various movie heroes and who would it most stand out as an oddity with but more to the point.
Which movie hero could get away with rape and have it not greatly affect the story. Rape to me is a horrible crime and its nothing funny about it but we are talking about movie rape so its as serious as any other crime in movie form. My mom thinks rapists should be put to death and like most people who are anti death penalty I'm stuck when people say "why do these people deserve to live" so yeah I'm not promoting rape by any means if anything I'm proving how rape could ruin our view of movie heroes.

Now I could be crass and make the predictable shock humor jokes of I'd like kindergarten cop more if there was rape in it but its hack and lazy. So let's lean into this more.

lets start with two of my favorites.

Mad max: when I think of heroes I think of champion of the weak coming from a background of loss. So having his wife killed and child killed right in front of him could maybe excuse (hahaha I'm excusing rape in my first example) his feverish rage rape. I mean he set a guy on fire slowly. Is that any worse than rape? There is a level of masochism with some of the kills in movies where you wsay "fuck I think I'd rather just be raped." Had Max grabbed one of the post apocalyptic crazy rail mother fuckers and just took the anger out on her. Like if she was a cartwheeling rascally flame thrower girl? I'm basically saying "if mad max raped Cheetara" so this discussion is already lost. Then the whole movie is undone and you just cost yourself what could be the perfect example on how to ruin a great movie with a shit trilogy. Max while having the mean streak and he past of unending pain and deserved anger towards the world that has been evolved into a neurosis song. He certainly does not have the malevolence to commit to rape. Especially with the frequent flashbacks of his wife's face and his insistence to help strangers. So like MasterBlaster and The Mighty Humongous Max is out.

John Rambo: (obviously first blood): Ok here is my second example and already my second case of rape excuse, but to make this discussion you have to placate rape into being less than obviously what it is; But seriously, 'Nam fucked him up and he came back to an entire country of people who dislike him and now have no use for the guy that they let go fight a war he had nothing to do with to begin!!! For those of you who haven't seen the first blood movie than you are GREATLY underestimating 1 how good of an actor Stallone could be in theory 2 how good the Rambo series could have been. Anyways Rambo wronged by his country used to be in charge of million dollar equipment now he can't hold a job parking cars. He comes back to the country drifting from town to town as a vagrant similar to other homeless vets you see on the street. And for the sake of committing to a rape storyline in this movie some hippy broad starts spitting on him calling him a baby killer and all kinds of vile crap. Rambo who is by no means a bad guy just had enough of being an afterthought and on top of it a mascot for a lost war and punches her boyfriend(who I envision to be jenny's abusive boyfriend in Forrest Gump) and he forces himself on her. But in doing so you immediately lose your sympathy for a cop murdering dog slaughtering psycho. He stops being the lovable loner who deserved better annnnd becomes a fucking rapist. Rambo went to a foreign land to kill people for a government and country that forgot him when he came back, the anger is there, the reason to take is there because he hasn't been given an iota of what he has earned. Then you find yourself rooting for Brian Dennehy, David Caruso and the guy who Rambo stole the dirt bike from. Jesus dude just go to the left or the right and Rambo doesn't get a hand on you you're on a 3 stroke, people throttle them over 200 foot gaps and you couldn't out maneuver a fucking mid 30s white man with over 100 feet of options, gun it you pussy. Rambo is out of this discussion but always in my heart.


Those two are perfect characters who later were raped by the poor writing of the trilogy. Lets pick a one and done vigilante to tie it all together.

Travis Bickle: All right now we're getting into people who have the potential to commit to the crime of rape. The potential victim list is slim at best. Iris was down for dick so obviously it'd be "if Travis raped Betsy" now Bickle is our first anti-hero a character seldom done well until Vince McMahon came up with Stone Cold Steve Austin and was able to package it onto t shirts and now Jason Statham plays one in every movie. But ok, Travis had a rough go of it we assume Vietnam wasn't a fun time for Travis and again he comes back to a world that's forgotten him which at the time was an awesome basis for some of the best movies ever made. Now where Rambo felt displaced and ultimately ruled unseemly by his country Travis tried to belong to this new world and it didn't go well. Now I assume the rape would happen after the phone call to Betsy where he tries to get another date or as we all know it "the most uncomfortable moment in cinema history". So he gets Betsy coming from the campaign HQ annnnnnnnnnnnnd well Travis is already a psycho so if you can forgive him for murdering of a pimp and the shootout at the end and everything then maybe. MAYBE. If he went to take something back from the world that forgot him MAYBE you could forgive him for being an armed lunatic giving shit to his passengers MAYBE you can forgive him for his menacing look and construction of weapon accessories then MAYBE he could put his dick in a campaign manager who had 0 respect for his plight and humiliated him several times. But of course you absolutely can't. Suspending any knowledge knowing Betsy was nice to Travis and wasn't by any means a bad person and 100% did not deserve rape. So there it is. Qualified acceptance of a rapist protagonist. I love Bickle but it'd be a different movie after he commits to a horrible crime like that. Bickle wanted to fix the world not ruin it. So Travis is out and likely dead. Suck on this!


Those are 3 good examples of guys who feel betrayed by society who have experienced great loss and feel like they've given more to the world than was given back to them. So lets remove anger from the situation. Lets look into the often rapey world of sports.

Rocky:- so you're telling me a meat head guinea athlete from Philadelphia hasn't committed several cases of rape both standard date rape AND statutory but we can't account for non-movie timeline actions. So lets all agree that the most likely to rape Rocky is Rocky I Rocky. The push-over has been southpaw from WEST PHILADELPHIA BORN AND RAISED who was called upon just to get smashed out by Creed. So the anger isn't there, however there is always the Italian undeserved sense of confidence. But Rocky is far from a mean guy, and even though he's a stuttering muttering douche he's still got the whole gentle side as was established in the ice skating scene, and no guy who takes a girl ice skating is capable of rape, rocky would at worst dry hump Adrienne. Rocky 2 and 3 Rocky was in love with Adrienne therefor incapable of anger passion. In 4 Nielson is a horrible soviet whore reminding me of every awful stripper but with the speech at the end of Rocky 4 about maybe the U.S. and Russia can like each other,




at this point Rocky is soft and easy, he beat Drago, his greatest adversaries Creed and Lang are dead and MIA. And by the time 5 and 6 came around Rocky was too old to sustain an erection. So sadly, finally you can count Rocky out.

Charlie Conway:- ok lets clear this up once and for all using of course the best control for all discussions and basically the barometer of modern day society, the 1998-2000 Detroit Red Wings. Now it may cheapen the greatness of comparing the Red Wings hockey team to a movie about hockey in The Mighty Ducks but its worth it to introduce these means of comparison are designed for you to pick it up quickly and with easy parallels. Especially because it is an easy comparison to make but a hard one to master.

Charlie = Steve Yzerman (the captain, the heart and soul of the team it goes nowhere with out him)
Adam Banks = Sergei Federov (the blazing talent, the speed, the flash although necessary its never really "his" team )
Jesse Hall = Brandon Shannahan (the rough and tumbled goal scorer who never shies from mixing it up)
Fulton Reed = Darren McCarty/Marty Lapointe the enforcer strength add Lidstrom's shot from the crease and you've got Fulton down pat.

So when they're winning games and people are realizing the value of Charlie and his heart there is no excuse for Connie to not to have wanted to fuck. BUT SHE DOESN'T even the figure skater girl is in with fucking of all people Guy. GUY?!? Guy Germaine at best is Larionov. AT BEST!!! For the girls to overlook young Charlie while he's diving on pucks, blocking shots, taking hits, doing the little things, all the while he is dropping hawks and scoring the winning goal!!! He lives the dream. The figure skating girl would be lucky to have Charlie jerk off on her now. In a way I'm glad Charlie didn't lower himself to shitty local Minnesotan pussy. So lets just point out the various reasons why Charlie could never do it.

1 NICENESS he's got the nice guy curse of always doing the work but always watching the girl he wants kiss the douche(like Guy Germaine)
2 IMMATURITY he's too young and doesn't realize what he deserves.
Later in the trilogy he gives up his spot in the series not knowing that he deserves the spot over any of the other kids, no reason to play the Spanish Speedster Mendoza over Charlie.
3 PUBERTY he was too young then and his tiny genitals probably couldn't work and any rape rage back then would probably be replaced with pushing a girl down on the playground.
4 PROMISE he's Joshua Jackson for christs sakes, he'd later play Pacey in Dawson's Creek. For fucks sake he was the 2000s answer to Dylan McKay. He backed his way into more pussy than any other of the ducks put together. Plus he has the option to have the initials "JJ".

Why take when the world is tripping over itself to give to you?
So charlie is also out and is concentrating on coaching.

I'm gonna regroup and think of more heroes.